Pre-AM2 Mid-Range Buyers' Guide, May 2006by Jarred Walton on May 9, 2006 6:30 AM EST
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Intel PlatformWe mentioned before that gaming enthusiasts might prefer maximum single core performance for the short-term. Given that AMD single core processors are significantly faster at gaming than Intel processors, we would only consider single core processors from AMD. Intel also offers much cheaper dual core processors, making it even more difficult to recommend anything else. Overclocking and other factors can still play a role, and as long as you're not interested in 64-bit support, the AOpen i975Xa-YDG and Core Duo T2300/2400 remain an interesting possibility. If I were about to go out and spend $400-$500 on a new motherboard and processor, and I wanted an Intel platform, that AOpen board would get my current pick. However, Intel's Presler processors are also pretty potent, and motherboards are significantly cheaper - plus you get 64-bit support, though that still isn't in widespread use. All of the comments about selecting an appropriate motherboard still apply, but we chose a motherboard that we've had good experiences with.
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Intel Motherboard: ASUS 945P P5LD2 Deluxe
Price: $151 shipped (Retail)
Intel CPU: Pentium D 930 2x2MB 3.0GHz (775) - Retail
Price: $212 shipped (Retail)
Even with a reasonably expensive motherboard, our Intel platform is significantly cheaper than the AMD platform. The ASUS motherboard comes with a well designed layout, two X16 slots (the one of them is limited to X4 bandwidth), FireWire, good overclocking support, and a wide open CPU socket area that will allow the use of just about any heatsink on the market. The Presler 930 processor comes clocked at 3.0 GHz by default, and at that speed the X2 3800+ is certainly faster. Once you overclock the Presler to 4.0 GHz though, things become more interesting. We would still give the Athlon X2 system the edge in overall performance - at stock clock speeds or overclocked - but there are a few applications that are very optimized for Intel's NetBurst architecture, and some people simply prefer Intel systems. Note also that the Pentium 930 will definitely run hotter and require more power than the X2 3800+, but you should all be aware of that fact by now.
Alternatives on the Intel side of things are almost more confusing than the AMD side. In most situations, we would recommend using an Intel chip set for an Intel processor. However, if you want to run SLI, you'll need to switch to an NVIDIA chipset. Motherboards using the NVIDIA nForce4 chipsets are almost all cheaper than boards using Intel chipsets, but my personal experience is that they require a lot more user knowledge in order to get them configured optimally. You also have to be careful about proper support for Presler and Smithfield 820 CPUs, as the early nForce4 SLI chipsets can still be found floating around on some of the cheaper motherboards. If you want guaranteed SLI support as well is support for the Presler processors - not to mention good overclocking features - spend the money on the ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe. If you want all of the extras but you want CrossFire support, go for the ASUS P5WD2-E Premium. The P5WD2 also reportedly supports Conroe, giving you a good upgrade path for six months from now.
If you're looking for different CPU options, we would mostly recommend looking at the cheaper CPUs. The Pentium D 805 and 820 are both pretty cheap, especially for a dual core processor. If you want to overclock, we recommend getting an aftermarket heatsink, as that will often get you another 200 or 300 MHz as well as lower temperatures. The Thermaltake Big Typhoon, Scythe Ninja, and Zalman 9500 are a few of the top air cooling solutions currently available. All three of them are also huge, so don't plan on using them in a small case, and make sure the motherboard you select will work with them. (All three ASUS motherboards mentioned above work fine.) Again, here's an abbreviated list of potential alternatives.
|Intel 775 Alternatives|
|Processor||Pentium 805 Retail||126|
|Processor||Pentium 820 OEM||158|
|Motherboard||ASUS 975X P5WD2-E Premium||219|
|Motherboard||ASUS P5N32-SLI Deluxe||198|
|Motherboard||Biostar TForce4U-775 (nForce4 Ultra)||96|
|Intel 479 Alternatives|
|Motherboard||Aopen 975X i975Xa-YDG (479)||287|
|Processor||Intel Core Duo T2300 1.66 GHz Retail||254|
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APKasten - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkOr you could just get this low latency G-Skill RAM that's on sale over at Newegg.com for $45 less. ;)
JarredWalton - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkWell, I mentioned the $55 MIR on the RAM. If you don't want to deal with MIRs, I suggested several alternatives. :) The G.Skill should work, yes.
SexyK - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkShouldn't that be Core 2 Duo?
peternelson - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - link"choice of components is also going to be limited - mostly in the motherboard area"
So, you expect a limited number of AM2 motherboards? Well there is a choice of several ATI and NVIDIA chips.
As for motherboard manufacturers with AM2 products, I know of (at least): ABIT, Asrock, Asus, Biostar, DFI, ECS, Epox, Foxconn, Gigabyte, MSI.
Many of these have several different boards, not just one, but I will not post all the model numbers for brevity.
I'm just saying I don't think choice of boards will be a big problem there are SLI/non-SLI etc. Single or dual lan etc.
JarredWalton - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkI'm talking about availability at launch. In a few months, the selection should be quite good. At launch, it will be FAR fewer in terms of options than socket 939. That's pretty much a given. Cost is the big question, of couse, and I don't know what AM2 chip or mobo cost is going to be just yet.
peternelson - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - link
Ah yes, that is somewhat down to distribution.
I figured if you can get your hands on AM2 cpus, you can probably find at least one board to put it in from the same shop/channel.
I guess first motherboard makers to market could own the market so they may be falling over themselves to get them out on time. Early launch times like this are premium prices thus one of the most profitable times to be selling boards.
Obviously there are loads of 939 boards but older ones are less desirable now.
For AM2 all will have up to date features.
ChillBoy - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkYes, I'd be interested in the HTPC guides. As the home is moving more integrated This would be an asset. May I suggest silence, HDCP support, optical media and media server be options explored for the hardware options. Thank you.
policy11 - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkI would definitely be interested in an HTPC buyers' guide.
CKDragon - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkI'd love to read an Anandtech HTPC guide as well. Hey, I'd settle for just a HTPC case roundup. I know there are other sites that have similar information, but none of them seem to be updated frequently enough for my liking. A solid, professional AT review would be great.
kleinwl - Tuesday, May 9, 2006 - linkYES!!!