AMD’s Ryzen 7000X3D Chips Get Release Dates: February 28th and April 6th, For $699/$599/$449by Ryan Smith on February 1, 2023 9:45 PM EST
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AMD today has announced the launch date and prices for its eagerly anticipated Ryzen 7000X3D series processors. Aimed primarily at gamers, the company’s first L3 V-Cache equipped Ryzen 7000 processors will begin rolling out on February 28th, when the Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Ryzen 9 7900X3D go on sale for $699 and $599 respectively. This will be followed up by the Ryzen 7 7800X3D a bit over a month later, when it goes on sale for $449 on April 6th.
First announced to great fanfare during AMD’s CES 2023 keynote (and teased well before that), the Ryzen 7000X3D chips will be AMD’s second generation of consumer chips employing the company’s novel 3D stacked V-Cache technology. V-Cache allows AMD to stack a 64MB L3 cache die on top of their existing CCDs in order to expand the total L3 capacity of a Zen 3/4 CCD, going from 32MB to 96MB. And in the case of multi-CCD designs such as the Ryzen 9 7950X, bringing the total, chip-wide L3 cache pool to 128MB.
|AMD Ryzen 7000X/X3D Series Line-Up|
|Ryzen 9 7950X3D||16C / 32T||4.2 GHz||5.7 GHz||128 MB||120W||$699||02/28/23|
|Ryzen 9 7950X||16C / 32T||4.5 GHz||5.7 GHz||64 MB||170W||$583||-|
|Ryzen 9 7900X3D||12C / 24T||4.4 GHz||5.6 GHz||128 MB||120W||$599||02/28/23|
|Ryzen 9 7900X||12C / 24T||4.7 GHz||5.6 GHz||64 MB||170W||$444||-|
|Ryzen 7 7800X3D||8C / 16T||4.2 GHz||5.0 GHz||96 MB||120W||$449||04/06/23|
|Ryzen 7 7700X||8C / 16T||4.5 GHz||5.4 GHz||32 MB||105W||$299||-|
|Ryzen 7 5800X3D||8C / 16T||3.4 GHz||4.5 GHz||96 MB||105W||$323||-|
Following the successful trial of the technology in the consumer space with AMD’s original Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which was released to positive acclaim back in the spring of 2022, AMD has developed a much broader lineup of V-Cache equipped Ryzen chips for this generation. This includes not only the 5800X3D’s direct successor, the 8 core Ryzen 7 7800X3D, but also, for the first time, chips employing multiple CCDs. These are the Ryzen 9 7900X3D and 7950X3D, which will offer 12 and 16 CPU cores, respectively.
Interestingly, AMD has gone for a non-homogenous design for these multi-CCD parts – rather than giving both CCDs V-Cache, AMD is only outfitting one of the CCDs with the extra L3 cache. The other CCD will remain a plain Zen 4 CCD, with its integrated 32MB of L3 cache. The unbalanced design, besides allowing AMD to control the costs of what’s still a relatively expensive technology to implement, will allow AMD to offer something close to the best of both worlds for their multi-CCD parts. The V-Cache equipped Zen 4 CCDs will offer 6 or 8 CPU cores backed by the massive L3 pool, for tasks that benefit from the larger cache size, while the vanilla Zen 4 CCDs will be unencumbered by the V-Cache, allowing them to clock higher for pure throughput workloads that wouldn’t benefit from the extra cache.
As with the original 5800X3D, AMD is aiming these chips at gamers in particular, as the complex, heavy-dataset nature of video games means they often benefit from having additional L3 cache on-hand. The 5800X3D was, depending on the game, around 15% faster than its vanilla Ryzen counterpart – at least so long as it wasn’t GPU limited. AMD is being a bit more coy this time around on making apples-to-apples comparisons against their regular Ryzen 7000 chips, so for now the only official performance figures available from AMD are pitting the chips against the 5800X3D. In lieu of that, a 15% improvement is a reasonable baseline given that the cache sizes haven’t changed in the last generation, but we’ll definitely want to take a closer look at the final chips to see if the additional L3 cache is as beneficial to Zen 4 as it was for Zen 3.
Back at their CES 2023 keynote, AMD announced the specifications for two-and-a-half of the chips, as well as an undetailed February launch date. With today’s announcement, AMD is finally filling in the rest of the details, as well as confirming that only part of the product stack is going to make that February launch date.
(Image Courtesy Tom's Hardware)
As previously noted, the Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Ryzen 9 7900X3D both launch on February 28th. The 16 core 7950X3D will hit the streets with a $699 price tag, while the 12 core 7900X3D will intro at $599. At current street prices, this represents roughly a $100 to $150 premium over the chips’ regular counterparts, with the 7950X selling for around $583, and the 7900X selling for around $444. Prices on AMD’s top AM5 chips have come down a decent bit since their 2022 launch, so the new X3D SKUs are coming in at similar launch prices as their non V-Cache counterparts. Put another way, whereas $699 would get you a 16 core 7950X in September, come February it will get you the same chip with an additional 64MB of L3 cache.
Other than benchmarks, at this point the only detail we don’t have on the 7950X3D and 7900X3D are the clockspeeds for the V-Cache equipped CCDs. AMD’s quoted turbo clockspeeds are for the vanilla CCD, so it’s unclear just how much clockspeeds have been lowered for the V-Cache CCD. But taking a hint from AMD’s sole single CCD X3D part, the 7800X3D, we see that part has a top clockspeed of just 5.0GHz. So we’d expect something similar for the V-Cache CCDs on the Ryzen 9 parts.
Speaking of the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, we finally have the full specifications on AMD’s most straightforward X3D part. Back in January AMD hadn’t locked down the base clockspeeds on this part, but as of today we finally have the answer: 4.2GHz. The chip will, in turn, be able to turbo as high as 5.0GHz as previously noted.
The cheapest of the Z3D parts, with a price tag of $449, the 7800X3D will also be the laggard of the group, with the chip not launching until April 6th. AMD has not explained the gap in launch dates, but it’s reasonable to assume that AMD is prioritizing the assembly and shipping of their more expensive Ryzen 9 SKUs. In any case, at current street prices the 7800X3D will carry a $150 premium over the $299 7700X, making it a full 50% more expensive, assuming these street prices hold through April. This happens to be the same price the 5800X3D launched at, so AMD is technically just holding the line here, but it does underscore how price cuts on the rest of the Ryzen 7000 lineup have made the standard chips very competitive on a price/performance basis.
In any case, we’ll have more on AMD’s first V-Cache equipped Zen 4 chips later this month. Besides taking an in-depth look at the performance improvements brought about by the larger L3 cache, the other major factor driving performance is going to be the Windows thread scheduler. As this is AMD’s first asymmetric Ryzen CPU, it will be up to Windows and AMD’s chipset driver to figure out which CCD to place threads on for the 7950X3D/7900X3D. So this month’s launch is going to require that AMD’s hardware and software offerings are in sync in order for the company to make a good first impression.
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Hifihedgehog - Wednesday, February 22, 2023 - linkCorrect. They are professionals so knowing the right tools for the job comes with the territory.
Dribble - Friday, February 3, 2023 - linkWhy would gamers need X3D parts with the uncached cores? They would just get the 7800X3D, the only market for the 79?0X3D is the professional who also games a bit.
godrilla - Friday, February 3, 2023 - linkThere is some rumors that AMD is attempting to using clever scheduling to utilize the faster cores from one chiplet ane extra cache on the other. Source hardware unboxed show on yt 2/2/23 but we would have to wait for some benchmarks to determine this. Plus the 7900x3d would be more practical. Also we would still have to wait for the 5800x3d to launch for a direct comparison to see if the this holds any weight.
Tom Sunday - Friday, February 3, 2023 - linkI am not quite an idiot as I do drive a forklift at Walmart on the third shift and at age 36 still living in Moms basement with full fridge benefits. But I am most definitely one who is on the lower rung of the food chain and who uses their PC to game in order to exercise my brain and drinking loads of Mountain Dew. Like with most AMD CPUs or products these days…I will wait until this coming November when the 7950X3D series processors will be available at about 1/3 of their price. I will feel smarter that way!
Gastec - Friday, February 3, 2023 - linkI don't think X3D gaming chips compute sarcasm.
Gastec - Friday, February 3, 2023 - linkThere's no need to be so condescending, we're not noobs here on AnandTech. Also there is no such thing as a "gaming" CPU, that is just a marketing term for the sheple. Some CPU's are faster than others in certain applications, but cost more money and/or consume more power, and that's all there is to it.
nandnandnand - Thursday, February 2, 2023 - linkIt absolutely can. Reviewers should be on the hunt for games and applications using the "wrong" chiplet. Running a game and workload at the same time could also be interesting.
Chaitanya - Thursday, February 2, 2023 - linkThat probably was the reason why MS staff was present when AMD presented these parts originally at CES few days back. AMD needs MS to properly program schedulers to keep latency to minimum when accessing the cache.
haukionkannel - Thursday, February 2, 2023 - linkThat also can be main reason to delay the release of these. Windows scheduler may need so "fine tuning" before it can really benefit v-cache versions... But lets see. 7800x3d will be real deal easily, so releasing that later does not goes well the speculation that scheduler needs tweaking for asymmetric cores.
The test will be interesting!
The easy solution would be to make v cache version are the main cores and high boosting as weak cores and when application can use all cores, the high boost will benefit in there. But that would leave some productivity benefits in the table when only few cores are used so really interesting how the cores and scheduler will behave!
Zoolook - Saturday, February 4, 2023 - linkThe most effective approach would be application profiling but I'm sure they will go with some "clever" estimation hack that will be put on the right core around 60% of the time.